💣 But The Phones Blow Up When We Do That… 💣

Why It Matters:  because doing same old, same old and allowing the phone lines or social media reaction to guide your content strategy are coin flips.

The week of November 3, 2025 was a particularly tough one at the intergalactic headquarters of The Reynolds Group and for your old pal Steve Reynolds aka the Top Ten Talent Coach®.

I spot checked two different shows that week and something so horrific happened on both that it took multiple therapy sessions and some gummies to deal with.  Only now can I talk about it.

I tuned in and both shows had on psychics.  Cue the thunderclap.

Hype and hyperbole aside, I did bristle at the content choice and imagined what both would say when I asked why.  As a former morning guy, I tend to know the excuses before I hear them.  I was well-versed in using all of them to justify a content choice that was both bad and non-strategic.

Here’s what they’d say: “but the phones blow up every time we do that.”  As if the phones were an affirmation of a smart decision.  They might be right.  But they could also be wrong.

I wanna make two points:

• It scares me to make content decisions based on direct feedback from what you get on the phones, when listeners talk with you, or what you see on social media. Not that those people are wrong for themselves, but it’s dangerous to extrapolate what a few people say and believe it’s correct for all.  Four blinking phone lines means that those four people are reacting to what you’re doing.  Without research, there’s no idea what everyone else thinks (test recall and perceptions and you’ll know much more than what blinking phone lines or social media likes/posts say).  If listeners tell you how wonderful you are, that’s their truth.  But remember, no listener will ever reach out to say the opposite.  It’s easy to be romanced into thinking that that’s how everyone feels.  But, emotions (good or bad) are never a smart way to decide about content for your show.  Tens of thousands are listening at any given moment.  That five said something is noise in the grand scheme of things.  The question I’d ask both shows above is this:  how did having on a psychic fit our content strategy?  If that can be answered satisfactorily, then let’s do it.  If it can’t, then we shouldn’t.
• The specific issue I have with psychics is that it isn’t a modern content choice. It’s quite old school and might say to the audience – we do this because we’ve done this and that should be good enough for you.

One show I work with decided to pull the old standard War of the Roses last year.  It got us our best streaming downloads and tune ins, but the show lost favor with it and, in a reassessment of our content strategy, we believed it no longer fit where the listeners are in life.  In a world with lots of arguing and deception, they and the show’s hosts hearing about cheating couples no longer was right.

That’s not to say drama doesn’t work.  We just had to update doing dramatic things, but no longer through this feature.  I’m not advocating taking this feature off if you do it, just sharing the conversation I had with this show about its fans.

We pulled the feature (everything went online and on demand for those who like it) and came up with new (modern) ideas to get stuff like that on the air.

Some talent reading this will wanna defend psychics.  I’ll make it easy.  Email me here to make your case and let’s have that spirited conversation.  But we need to be more strategic and inventive to get to our win, given the vast number of choices listeners have for content and connection.

Let me leave you with this great quote from Harry Styles on Howard Stern on the best advice he ever got in his career (clip here).  Harry said:

“I think one of my favorite things a friend once told me is remember that everything that people say about you isn’t true.   Whether they say that you are horrific, it’s not true.  And if they tell you that you’re the best thing ever, it’s not true.”

Certainly, accept those comments.  That’s the truth of the person sharing it.  But…your plot and content strategy beat all of that.  Can you honestly and dispassionately connect the dots between whatever you decide to do on your show and that?

In a world with lots of noise all around us all the time, choose well and smart.  And ignore the feedback you get from those blinking lights and social media posts.  It’s always dangerous to decide only from those.