John and Tammy, KSON, San Diego On the Protests
You cannot ignore the protests. Some shows fear tackling a topic as big as this, but to build a brand in 2020, you must take a stand. Don’t conflate taking a stand against racism or for the Black Lives Matter movement with politics. You can easily wade into the former with your honest feelings without ever touching Trump. After all, who’d call to say they would no longer listen because they were for racism? Part of connection around a topic of this size is first being honest with the audience, and then understanding the tone with which you deliver your perspective moderates any “stop listening moment” your audience could have. John and Tammy, KSON, San Diego handled this perfectly last week when they admitted to listeners that as white people, they truly don’t understand what it’s like to be African American. So they found a black pastor to come on the show to teach them what they did not get in their everyday American experience. This never became about politics – it was affirming, uplifting, positive, and, at its end, might even move you to cry. This is relevance – not fearing the topic, but thinking through how to present it so the audience leaves understanding your values as someone they wish to wake up with everyday on the radio.

With Howard Stern saying the president should resign, we’re reminded of the kind of relationship you want with listeners where you can do that, too, with minimal fear your fans will abandon you. Everything you can do with your show is rooted in the relationship you have with the audience. Howard has been around a long time and has been so honest with them over the course of these decades that he’s defined enough to be able to say what he did about President Trump and get away with it. It’s a process of building trust, which is vulnerability over lots of time. While you should always be honest with the audience, the berth of topics you can tackle on your show (the more divisive ones) opens over time (many, many years – and chance are you aren’t there yet). Here’s break from The Josie Dye Show with Matt and Carlin, Indie 88, Toronto who tackle the plandemic video that made the rounds on YouTube before being deleted. What I love about this break is that the team took a stand on this video – the tone of which was honest, but not off-putting. Then they pivot to a chat with a doctor who supported their position from a medical perspective. The takeaway is always be honest with the audience but know where your line is to continue building that relationship.
You might be doing lots of interviews with the Covid issue. Compelling and interesting story-telling with experts and listeners really resonate with the audience. But, you don’t get there by accident and certainly cannot make it happen without prep. There is a very compelling TV commercial featuring a nurse at a Hartford-area hospital (
We’ve all done the same half dozen Mother’s Day ideas for years, right? Karson and Kennedy, MIX 104.1, Boston developed a new idea this year called Iron Mom. It’s the pretty simple bit where listeners call a voicemail line to tell them about what makes their mom special – what elevates this idea is the frame (they are creating a club of Iron Moms, which is powerful) and what they are asking listeners to share when they call. The brilliance of this break is how they debuted the feature. Where many shows would just promote the number, keeping the idea in listeners’ heads as they explained what they wanted, the team left their own mock voicemails for themselves and then played them for the audience. As you will hear, the examples both defined the show’s cast for character development but also gave those inclined to call what they are looking for. Each was both touching and funny and they moved the audience to feel the idea so listeners knew what to leave on the voicemail line for airing – which is smart.
There are stories all over the place of the odd things happening to people around the coronavirus topic. While you should start transitioning to other kinds of content now, this topic is still relevant, especially if you’re telling a story and having fun. Charles Calvin got what he thought was an $8-million stimulus check from the federal government instead of his expected $1600. David, Sue, and Kendra, Magic 106.7, Boston had to hear the story. What makes this break great is that they let him tell them the story. Knowing all the details because of prep, they helped him move the narrative forward to its conclusion. When interviewing anyone, I am listening for many things (is it a well-told, interesting story? Will the audience laugh at it? Has it been edited well?). Chief among the things I am also listening for is how much the talent talk and how much the person being interviewed talks. I hope for more of the latter than the former.
A challenge for every show, regardless of market size, is getting phone calls early in the program. We all have smaller audiences then and listeners are less inclined to call a show and participate in any game or phone topic you might have. What could help is focusing the phones on a specific type of listeners. Two Men and a Mom, WRAL-FM, Raleigh know that, while most of the audience is getting up and ready for work or school (when in session) at that early hour, they are not inclined to call. But an audience on the road and more ripe to participate in a radio show is truckers. So they direct this occasional phone topic at them, asking truckers to call to tell them what they’re hauling. It’s a simple way to generate some content early in the show on the phones – the win comes in the conversation, then the payoff of finding out what’s in their truck and where they’re bringing it.
One quick way to get phones is to ask the audience to help you solve a dilemma. That’s reflected in this week’s